I don't think it's that important to decide whether it's an English word or not documenting how Thai and Westeners pronounce it will certainly be useful to our readers regardless. Fortunately the article now includes the Thai spelling and pronunciation. Mark Your comments are mistaken in every possible way. If I say, "Yesterday I saw a kathoey", that is a perfectly good English sentence I haven't started speaking Thai halfway through. TheMadBaron 01:33, 16 November 2005 (UTC) Reply If kathoey were not an English word, we wouldn't have an article on it in the English wikipedia. Strange transliterations like "oey" arise as a way to consistently convey vowel sounds which simply can't be spelled in our alphabet. The initial consonant ก is certainly closer to g than k, but "oo-ay" is one too many syllables to make the final vowel sound, and neither of them is the right vowel sound. The pronunciation "ka-toy" is simply a common mispronunciation of กะเทย, which does not sound like "ga- too-ay". Kathoey is not an English word (try looking it up in an English dictionary). I think the correct pronunciation would be a useful addition if it could be precisely and concisely conveyed - but I don't think it can. Mark 21:24, 15 November 2005 (UTC) Reply I respectfully disagree. The Thai word is (roughly) "ga- too-ay", but the pronunciation of That words doesn't really belong in the English wikipedia. TheMadBaron 09:23, 15 November 2005 (UTC) Reply Could you try to describe it somehow? AxelBoldt 17:35, 15 November 2005 (UTC) Reply I don't think that most westerners do mispronounce it- it's just that the English word is not pronounced the same as the Thai word from which it derives (nor is "Venice" pronounced "Venezia"). The final vowel doesn't exist in spoken English, and most westerners mispronounce it. Sexology and sexuality Wikipedia:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality Template:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality Sexology and sexuality articlesĬould someone add the proper pronunciation of "kathoey" to the article? Thanks, AxelBoldt 19:02, (UTC) If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sexology and sexuality, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of human sexuality on Wikipedia. Sexology and sexuality Start‑class Mid‑importance This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. Sociology Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology Template:WikiProject Sociology sociology articles This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sociology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of sociology on Wikipedia. This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale. Thailand Wikipedia:WikiProject Thailand Template:WikiProject Thailand Thailand articles If you would like to help improve this and other Thailand-related articles, please join the project. The WikiProject is also a part of the Counteracting systematic bias group aiming to provide a wider and more detailed coverage on countries and areas of the encyclopedia which are notably less developed than the rest. This article is within the scope of WikiProject Thailand, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Thailand-related articles on Wikipedia. This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. LGBT studies Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies Template:WikiProject LGBT studies LGBT articles For more information, or to get involved, please visit the project page or contribute to the discussion. This article is of interest to WikiProject LGBT studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBT-related issues on Wikipedia. This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:
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